Note the electrical outlet for the lights at night while loading.
Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Monday, October 24, 2011
Gary and Kari Johnson need our help
Hi,
The question of whether or not to have elephant rides and our treatment of the elephants is on the agenda for the next board meeting of the 22nd DAA, San Diego County Fair in Del Mar on November 8, 2011 at 1:PM. They are expecting a really big turn out from the animal rights groups.
If you know us, you know how much we love our elephants. Please consider telling your story at the board meeting. If you can speak for 2 or 3 minutes, that would be wonderful. If you don’t want to speak, but can come to show support that would be great too. We know that some of you are working or far away but e-mail, letters and phone calls of support for having elephants at the fair are also very important.
Please copy us on everything you send so we can make sure it gets to the right people. Thank you for all you have already done for us and we appreciate that you keep doing it. Below is meeting and contact information. ~Kari and Gary
Board meeting of the 22nd DAA
WHEN: November 8, 2011 - 1:PM
WHERE: Board Room at the San Diego County Fairgrounds
2260 Jimmy Durante Blvd.
Del Mar, CA 92014Phone:
(858) 755-1161
http://www.facebook.com/l/8AQE1aSkQAQFHXzlj-w0_nL0-OGVFOlbylKbm0K1mB_1EYw/www.sdfair.com
E-mail: tfennell@sdfair.com or info@sdfair.com
Mailing Address; (letters are best followed up by an e-mail)22nd DAA Board of Directors% San Diego County Fair2260 Jimmy Durante Blvd.Del Mar, CA 90214
The question of whether or not to have elephant rides and our treatment of the elephants is on the agenda for the next board meeting of the 22nd DAA, San Diego County Fair in Del Mar on November 8, 2011 at 1:PM. They are expecting a really big turn out from the animal rights groups.
If you know us, you know how much we love our elephants. Please consider telling your story at the board meeting. If you can speak for 2 or 3 minutes, that would be wonderful. If you don’t want to speak, but can come to show support that would be great too. We know that some of you are working or far away but e-mail, letters and phone calls of support for having elephants at the fair are also very important.
Please copy us on everything you send so we can make sure it gets to the right people. Thank you for all you have already done for us and we appreciate that you keep doing it. Below is meeting and contact information. ~Kari and Gary
Board meeting of the 22nd DAA
WHEN: November 8, 2011 - 1:PM
WHERE: Board Room at the San Diego County Fairgrounds
2260 Jimmy Durante Blvd.
Del Mar, CA 92014Phone:
(858) 755-1161
http://www.facebook.com/l/8AQE1aSkQAQFHXzlj-w0_nL0-OGVFOlbylKbm0K1mB_1EYw/www.sdfair.com
E-mail: tfennell@sdfair.com or info@sdfair.com
Mailing Address; (letters are best followed up by an e-mail)22nd DAA Board of Directors% San Diego County Fair2260 Jimmy Durante Blvd.Del Mar, CA 90214
Flatcar # 60
The History of Flatcar # 60
This flatcar is a 72 ft. Warren design flat. It was purchased from World of Mirth Shows on September 21, 1964 by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. While on the World of Mirth Shows it was numbered # 63.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1928 and 1937, it has been documented that the Bernardi Greater Shows later changed the name to World of Mirth. Bernardi Greater Shows bought new 72’ Warrens in 1926/1927. World of Mirth then ordered five new 72’ Warrens in 1936. The Jess Adkins and Zack Terrell owned Cole Bros. Circus ordered six new Warrens in 1937. They also bought three from the Sam Gumpertz era of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Other shows that were known to have sold the train cars that eventully ended up on Cole Bros. Circus included S.W. Brundage Shows, Dodson Shows, Robbins Bros. and 101 Ranch which had their cars come from the defunct King Bros., Gentry Bros. and 1929 Cole Bros. World Toured Circus.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Yellow with Blue letters and titled Walter L. Main All New Monster Shows on one side and Yellow with Red Letters and a Black Outline titled The Barnum & Bailey Greatest Show on Earth on the other side. This paint scheme was used through 1995.
In 1996, it was repainted as a Red car and re-lettered with Yellow Letters, a Black Outline, and White Shading titled Walter L. Main Circus on both sides.
This car was used in every parade train that ran from 1965 to 2003. As of Sept. 2007, it rests on a spur track outside the Train sheds just west of the CWM.
This flatcar is a 72 ft. Warren design flat. It was purchased from World of Mirth Shows on September 21, 1964 by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. While on the World of Mirth Shows it was numbered # 63.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1928 and 1937, it has been documented that the Bernardi Greater Shows later changed the name to World of Mirth. Bernardi Greater Shows bought new 72’ Warrens in 1926/1927. World of Mirth then ordered five new 72’ Warrens in 1936. The Jess Adkins and Zack Terrell owned Cole Bros. Circus ordered six new Warrens in 1937. They also bought three from the Sam Gumpertz era of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Other shows that were known to have sold the train cars that eventully ended up on Cole Bros. Circus included S.W. Brundage Shows, Dodson Shows, Robbins Bros. and 101 Ranch which had their cars come from the defunct King Bros., Gentry Bros. and 1929 Cole Bros. World Toured Circus.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Yellow with Blue letters and titled Walter L. Main All New Monster Shows on one side and Yellow with Red Letters and a Black Outline titled The Barnum & Bailey Greatest Show on Earth on the other side. This paint scheme was used through 1995.
In 1996, it was repainted as a Red car and re-lettered with Yellow Letters, a Black Outline, and White Shading titled Walter L. Main Circus on both sides.
This car was used in every parade train that ran from 1965 to 2003. As of Sept. 2007, it rests on a spur track outside the Train sheds just west of the CWM.
Flatcar # 60
This is an Earl Finger photo taken in 1990 showing the lettering on this side of the car.
Sunday, October 23, 2011
Flatcar # 61
The History of Flatcar # 61
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. It was purchased from World of Mirth Shows on September 21, 1964 by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. While on the World of Mirth Shows it was numbered # 25.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1237, it has been documented that the Bernardi Shows later changed the name to World of Mirth.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Blue Green Outline with the title of Cole Bros. with Clyde Beatty and Ken Maynard on one side of the car. The other side was a Dark Orange car with White Letters titled Sparks Circus. This paint scheme was used through 1995.
The car was repainted again in 1996. The car was silver with a Bright red banner inside the steel framework of the car creating a Red inside and a Silver outside edge. White letters were used along with a Black Outline. The car was titled Buck Jones Wild West and Roundup Days, Hollywood, Cal. This remained intact through the final 2003 parade.
As of Sept. 2007, the car is stored on a spur track at the Train sheds located just west of the CWM.
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. It was purchased from World of Mirth Shows on September 21, 1964 by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. While on the World of Mirth Shows it was numbered # 25.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1237, it has been documented that the Bernardi Shows later changed the name to World of Mirth.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Blue Green Outline with the title of Cole Bros. with Clyde Beatty and Ken Maynard on one side of the car. The other side was a Dark Orange car with White Letters titled Sparks Circus. This paint scheme was used through 1995.
The car was repainted again in 1996. The car was silver with a Bright red banner inside the steel framework of the car creating a Red inside and a Silver outside edge. White letters were used along with a Black Outline. The car was titled Buck Jones Wild West and Roundup Days, Hollywood, Cal. This remained intact through the final 2003 parade.
As of Sept. 2007, the car is stored on a spur track at the Train sheds located just west of the CWM.
Flatcar # 61
# 61 had an unusual paint job in it's formative years on the CWM train when it was painted dark red on one side with the Sparks title and painted silver on the other side with the Cole title. This is a Jim Peterson photo from 1988.
Flatcar # 61
Taken in 2006, you can see a gap in the lettering around the "U" in UP. This is all vinyl lettering and red background and not painted like those in the years past. Here the vinyl is torn off.
Flatcar # 62
The History of Flatcar # 62
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. This particular car was identified to be from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus.
It is uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 91.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and painted Silver with red Letters and a Blue Outline being titled Clyde Beatty Circus on one side and a Silver car with Yellow Letters and a Red Outline being titled Sun Bros. World’s Progressive Shows on the other side.
This car was in rather poor shape and was only used in the 1970, 1971, 1972, and 1973 parade trains. It was never used again.
This car was scrapped in the early 1980’s with a couple other flatcars. Two of the four cars are accounted for in an inventory taken by Bob Parkinson in August of 1986. I have been assured by former employees that this car was gone before Bill Schultz left CWM in early 1985.
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. This particular car was identified to be from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus.
It is uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 91.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and painted Silver with red Letters and a Blue Outline being titled Clyde Beatty Circus on one side and a Silver car with Yellow Letters and a Red Outline being titled Sun Bros. World’s Progressive Shows on the other side.
This car was in rather poor shape and was only used in the 1970, 1971, 1972, and 1973 parade trains. It was never used again.
This car was scrapped in the early 1980’s with a couple other flatcars. Two of the four cars are accounted for in an inventory taken by Bob Parkinson in August of 1986. I have been assured by former employees that this car was gone before Bill Schultz left CWM in early 1985.
Flatcar # 62
This is from a viewmaster reel in 1966. This shows the one side lettered as Clyde Beatty. This car wasn't used that much and as a result, these are the only two photos I ever located to document this car.
Flatcar # 63
The History of Flatcar # 63
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 61.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. It was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and repainted a Red body with White lettering being titled The Mighty Haag Shows on one side and a Red body with White lettering being titled W.W. Cole’s great New York and New Orleans Zoological and Equestrienne Exposition. This car was used from 1965 until 1973. It was never used again.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still sitting on a spur track at the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 61.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. It was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and repainted a Red body with White lettering being titled The Mighty Haag Shows on one side and a Red body with White lettering being titled W.W. Cole’s great New York and New Orleans Zoological and Equestrienne Exposition. This car was used from 1965 until 1973. It was never used again.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still sitting on a spur track at the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
Friday, October 21, 2011
Flatcar # 64
The History of Flatcar # 64
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 61.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. It was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and repainted a Red body with White lettering and a Gold Outline titled Howe’s Great London Circus with Van Amburg’s Trained Wild Animals on one side of the car and painted Maroon with Yellow Letters and an Orange Outline being titled the Greater Norris and Rowe Show on the other side.
This car was used from 1965 through 1973 then when the parade train was resurrected again in 1985 through 1991. It was never used after that.
As of Sept. 2007, this car was resting on a spur track by the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 61.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. It was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and repainted a Red body with White lettering and a Gold Outline titled Howe’s Great London Circus with Van Amburg’s Trained Wild Animals on one side of the car and painted Maroon with Yellow Letters and an Orange Outline being titled the Greater Norris and Rowe Show on the other side.
This car was used from 1965 through 1973 then when the parade train was resurrected again in 1985 through 1991. It was never used after that.
As of Sept. 2007, this car was resting on a spur track by the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
Flatcar # 64
This is the show title as applied on one side of the car. This is an Earl Finger photo from 1990.
Flatcar # 64
This is the lettering on the other side of the car. This is a Carter Siegling photo from 1988.Flatcar # 64
I took these next few pictures in 2006. The car is on the storage track beside the car barns.
Flatcar # 65
The History of Flatcar # 65
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 41.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. This was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and painted Blue with Orange Letters and White Shading being titled Yankee Robinson Three Ring Circus on one side and a Blue car with Orange Letters and a White Outline being titled W.H. Harris New Nickel Plate Shows on the other side.
This car was in rather poor shape and was only used in the 1966 through 1973 parade trains. It was never used again.
This car was scrapped in the early 1980’s with a couple other flatcars. Two of the four cars are accounted for in an inventory taken by Bob Parkinson in August of 1986. I have been assured by former employees that this car was gone before Bill Schultz left CWM in early 1985.
This flatcar is 70’ long and was built by the Mt. Vernon Car Manufacturing Co. sometime between 1921 and 1927. The original owners are unknown. Speculation could be that they were from the Sparks Circus that bought Mt. Vernons in 1921 and 1923 and that they were bought from Ringling in 1936 or 1937 after Ringling had bought the American Circus Corporation that included the Sparks Circus. The Cole Bros. Circus had Mt. Vernons also. Their train was a compilation of former show equipment including the 1925 Robbins Bros. Circus, the 1924 to 1926 Christy Bros. Circus and / or the 1925 to 1927 Miller Bros. 101 Ranch Wild West show.
It is also uncertain as to just when the World of Mirth Shows acquired this car and from whom. While it was on the World of Mirth Shows it was # 41.
This car was purchased by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co from the World of Mirth Shows for the Circus World Museum on Sept. 21, 1964. This was used as a run car.
Once in the possession of the Circus World Museum, the car was refurbished and painted Blue with Orange Letters and White Shading being titled Yankee Robinson Three Ring Circus on one side and a Blue car with Orange Letters and a White Outline being titled W.H. Harris New Nickel Plate Shows on the other side.
This car was in rather poor shape and was only used in the 1966 through 1973 parade trains. It was never used again.
This car was scrapped in the early 1980’s with a couple other flatcars. Two of the four cars are accounted for in an inventory taken by Bob Parkinson in August of 1986. I have been assured by former employees that this car was gone before Bill Schultz left CWM in early 1985.
Thursday, October 20, 2011
Flatcar # 66
The History of Flatcar # 66
This 70’ long flatcar was originally built as a Stockcar by the Warren Tank Car Company in 1938 for the newly formed Tim McCoy Wild West Show. The Tim McCoy show didn’t last long. The Stockcar was acquired by the Iron & Steel Works of Chicago, Ill. At some point in time between 1941 and 1945, the World of Mirth Shows got this Stockcar. It is believed that the World of Mirth Shows were the ones that cut the top off of the car making it into a flatcar. While on the World of Mirth Shows, it carried the # 26 on it.
This car was bought by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. to be used by the Circus World Museum in November of 1965. It arrived in Baraboo on January 7th, 1966.
This car was refurbished and painted Silver with Red Letters and a White Outline with the title of Circus World Museum Baraboo, Wisconsin. It was only used in 1970, 1971, 1972, and 1973. The Train crew members have told me this car walked all around the tracks when moving. It had lost a lot of its engineered strength when the top was removed. In 1989, the Circus World Museum donated this car to the Mid Continent Railway Museum in Wisconsin. In 1993, it was severely damaged at the Railway Museum and was eventually scrapped
This 70’ long flatcar was originally built as a Stockcar by the Warren Tank Car Company in 1938 for the newly formed Tim McCoy Wild West Show. The Tim McCoy show didn’t last long. The Stockcar was acquired by the Iron & Steel Works of Chicago, Ill. At some point in time between 1941 and 1945, the World of Mirth Shows got this Stockcar. It is believed that the World of Mirth Shows were the ones that cut the top off of the car making it into a flatcar. While on the World of Mirth Shows, it carried the # 26 on it.
This car was bought by the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Co. to be used by the Circus World Museum in November of 1965. It arrived in Baraboo on January 7th, 1966.
This car was refurbished and painted Silver with Red Letters and a White Outline with the title of Circus World Museum Baraboo, Wisconsin. It was only used in 1970, 1971, 1972, and 1973. The Train crew members have told me this car walked all around the tracks when moving. It had lost a lot of its engineered strength when the top was removed. In 1989, the Circus World Museum donated this car to the Mid Continent Railway Museum in Wisconsin. In 1993, it was severely damaged at the Railway Museum and was eventually scrapped
Flatcar # 67
The History of Flatcar # 67
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Black Outline. It was titled Royal American Shows. It made the 1971, 1972, and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
When the train was resurrected in 1985, this car was repainted and re-lettered. It was now a silver car with Red Letters Shaded in Blue. It was titled Clyde Beatty Circus. This lettering and color scheme remained for the entire use of this car. It went to Milwaukee every year except 1990, 1991, and 2003 when it was not used.
In September of 2003, the Sedlmyer family sold this flatcar to Hoffman Construction Co. in Black River Falls, WI. David Hoffman was responsible for the movement of the car from Museum property to his location.
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Black Outline. It was titled Royal American Shows. It made the 1971, 1972, and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
When the train was resurrected in 1985, this car was repainted and re-lettered. It was now a silver car with Red Letters Shaded in Blue. It was titled Clyde Beatty Circus. This lettering and color scheme remained for the entire use of this car. It went to Milwaukee every year except 1990, 1991, and 2003 when it was not used.
In September of 2003, the Sedlmyer family sold this flatcar to Hoffman Construction Co. in Black River Falls, WI. David Hoffman was responsible for the movement of the car from Museum property to his location.
As another side note: Would anyone have a photo of this flatcar from the 1970's with the Royal American Shows lettering they could share with me? Bob Cline - fivetiger@shtc.net
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
Flatcar # 68
The History of Flatcar # 68
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a White Outline. It was titled Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Congress of Rough Riders of the World and lettered the same on both sides of the car for the 1971, 1972 and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
In 1985, when the parade was resurrected, the car was repainted and re-lettered again. This time the car was a Silver car with Red letters and a Black outline that was titled Cole Bros. Circus on both sides of the car.
By 1990, the car was showing a noticeable bow in the side from one end to the other. This bow is perhaps 3 to 5” out of straight. The Railroads recommended this car be retired. It was never used again.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still on a siding at the Train Sheds.
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a White Outline. It was titled Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Congress of Rough Riders of the World and lettered the same on both sides of the car for the 1971, 1972 and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
In 1985, when the parade was resurrected, the car was repainted and re-lettered again. This time the car was a Silver car with Red letters and a Black outline that was titled Cole Bros. Circus on both sides of the car.
By 1990, the car was showing a noticeable bow in the side from one end to the other. This bow is perhaps 3 to 5” out of straight. The Railroads recommended this car be retired. It was never used again.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still on a siding at the Train Sheds.
As a side note, if anyone has a photo of this car from the 1970's with the Buffalo Bill title on it, could you share it with me? Bob Cline - fivetiger@shtc.net
Flatcar # 68
This is a great view again showing the truss type support of the early style Warren flats. This was taken in 1990 by Earl Finger.Flatcar # 68
Perhaps you can tell from this photo the warp in the side of this car. That is why this one ended its career sooner than the others.
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
Flatcar # 69
The History of Flatcar # 69
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Orange letters and a Blue Outline. It was titled Hagenbeck Wallace Circus and lettered the same on both sides of the car for the 1972 and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
When the parade train was resurrected again in 1985, the flatcar had been repainted as a Silver car with Red Letters, a Green Outline and a Dark Red for a shadow on the lettering. It was titled Yankee Robinson Circus. This paint scheme was on both sides of the car through 1995.
The flatcar was NOT used for 1996, 1997, or 1998. It was then repainted and re-lettered again. This time it is a light blue car with Yellow Lettering, a Burgandy Shadow, and a White Accent on the letters. It was titled “Great Circus Parade”.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still parked beside the Train sheds located west of the Museum.
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car was refurbished and repainted Silver with Orange letters and a Blue Outline. It was titled Hagenbeck Wallace Circus and lettered the same on both sides of the car for the 1972 and 1973 runs to Milwaukee.
When the parade train was resurrected again in 1985, the flatcar had been repainted as a Silver car with Red Letters, a Green Outline and a Dark Red for a shadow on the lettering. It was titled Yankee Robinson Circus. This paint scheme was on both sides of the car through 1995.
The flatcar was NOT used for 1996, 1997, or 1998. It was then repainted and re-lettered again. This time it is a light blue car with Yellow Lettering, a Burgandy Shadow, and a White Accent on the letters. It was titled “Great Circus Parade”.
As of Sept. 2007, it was still parked beside the Train sheds located west of the Museum.
Flatcar # 69
This is a pretty good view of the underframe truss support that was used in the early Warren flatcars.
Flatcar # 69
This Dom Yodice photo was taken in 2001. The train is heading to Milwaukee. On the trip back to Baraboo, this flat carried the Two Hemispheres bandwagon, the Great Circus Parade Introduction Wagon and the Cole Bros. Hippo den.Flatcar # 69
This was taken in 2006 as the flatcar was now out of service, sitting on tracks near the CWM car barns.
Flatcar # 75
The History of Flatcar # 75
This flatcar was originally built by the Warren Tank Car Company in the 1921 to 1929 period. The original owner is unknown. It is documented as having been on the Buck Jones Show in 1929. Foley & Burk Carnival acquired this car from the Buck Jones Show in 1929 and continually used it until the early 1970’s. Foley and Burk’s owner Lloyd Hilligoss donated this car to the Circus World Museum in 1972. While on Foley & Burk it used the # 45.
Upon its arrival at the Circus World Museum it was put into use immediately with a Silver body, Yellow Lettering, an Orange Shading and a Blue accent being lettered Foley and Burk Shows on both sides. The new number was # 75. This paint scheme was used in 1972 and 1973.
When the parade train was resurrected in 1985 this car was repainted a Silver Body with Red Letters and White Outline and titled Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Circus on both sides.
The car was repainted and re-lettered for the third time in 2000 as an Orange car with White letters and Dark Blue Outline and a Shadow added. It was now titled Royal American Shows on both sides. This was used from 2000 through 2003 for the last ride to Milwaukee.
As of Sept. 2007, the car was stored inside the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
This flatcar was originally built by the Warren Tank Car Company in the 1921 to 1929 period. The original owner is unknown. It is documented as having been on the Buck Jones Show in 1929. Foley & Burk Carnival acquired this car from the Buck Jones Show in 1929 and continually used it until the early 1970’s. Foley and Burk’s owner Lloyd Hilligoss donated this car to the Circus World Museum in 1972. While on Foley & Burk it used the # 45.
Upon its arrival at the Circus World Museum it was put into use immediately with a Silver body, Yellow Lettering, an Orange Shading and a Blue accent being lettered Foley and Burk Shows on both sides. The new number was # 75. This paint scheme was used in 1972 and 1973.
When the parade train was resurrected in 1985 this car was repainted a Silver Body with Red Letters and White Outline and titled Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Circus on both sides.
The car was repainted and re-lettered for the third time in 2000 as an Orange car with White letters and Dark Blue Outline and a Shadow added. It was now titled Royal American Shows on both sides. This was used from 2000 through 2003 for the last ride to Milwaukee.
As of Sept. 2007, the car was stored inside the Train Sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
Flatcar # 75
Dad captured this in 1979. The flatcar can barely be made out still having the Foley and Burk lettering on it. You can double click the photo to enlarge it.
Flatcar # 75
Now out of Service along with the rest of the CWM train, it sits on a track near the CWM train sheds. This photo was taken in 2006.
Monday, October 17, 2011
Flatcar # 99
The History of Flatcar # 99
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car remained unused until the parade was resurrected in 1985. It was then refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Yellow Shading. It was titled Campbell Bros. Circus.
This car was repainted and re-lettered in 1997. It was now a Red car with Blue Letters and a White Outline. It was titled Circus World Museum. It went to Milwaukee every year except 1992 when it was not used.
On January 6, 2004, the Sedlmyer family sold this flatcar to Cranberry Creek Canneries in Needah, WI. The Canneries were responsible for the movement of the car from Museum property to their location.
This flatcar is a 70 ft. Warren design flat. The car design uses the under belly truss design of the very early Warren Tank Car Co. manufacturing. It was placed on loan to the Circus World Museum from the Royal American Shows on April 27, 1971.
The actual origin of the car is only speculation. Built by the Warren Tank Car Co. sometime between 1920 and 1927, this flatcar was one of many that Royal American Shows bought from the defunct Cetlin and Wilson Shows in 1968 when the show went broke in Savannah, Ga. Royal American’s loan to the Circus World Museum stated these cars had a Ringling background.
On Jan. 15, 1952, the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Inc. daily ledgers now housed at the Circus World Museum Research Library detail the sale of three flatcars numbered 125, 132, & 137 to Cetlin & Wilson Shows. The Billboard reported in the February 2, 1952 issue that Cetlin & Wilson had bought five RBBB flats and they had already been shipped to Petersburg, Va. winter quarters for Cetlin and Wilson. It is also known that Ringling did indeed have 70’ Warrens as a couple exist at the Circus World Museum now.
Upon it’s acquisition for the Circus Train, the car remained unused until the parade was resurrected in 1985. It was then refurbished and repainted Silver with Red letters and a Yellow Shading. It was titled Campbell Bros. Circus.
This car was repainted and re-lettered in 1997. It was now a Red car with Blue Letters and a White Outline. It was titled Circus World Museum. It went to Milwaukee every year except 1992 when it was not used.
On January 6, 2004, the Sedlmyer family sold this flatcar to Cranberry Creek Canneries in Needah, WI. The Canneries were responsible for the movement of the car from Museum property to their location.
Flatcar # 99
Here it is newly repainted in a red body for the 1998 run to Milwaukee. This is a Matthew Condron photo.
Flatcar # 231
The History of Flatcar # 231
This flatcar is a 72 ft. Thrall design flat. It was purchased from the Royal American Shows on January 28, 1987 by the Circus World Museum for $ 2000.00. While on the Royal American Shows it was numbered # 35.
The origin of the car is from the Thrall Car Manufacturing Company. It was built in 1949 for the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. It was intended for use by two of the steel seat wagons designed by Art Concello but it was discovered the seat wagons were too heavy for these flats.
After Ringling closed under canvas in 1956, they were put up for sale in 1959. Royal American Shows bought a couple. In 1961, Ringling sold all remaining flatcars to Royal American Shows, so it us unknown for sure whether this was purchased from Ringling in 1959 or 1961.
Royal American Shows used this flat on their train until they stopped train travel. It was offered for sale and six of them were purchased by the Circus World Museum for $ 2000.00 each.
They were not used for the first 5 years. In 1992, the first Thrall flat car was used in the Parade train. It was painted silver with the Bright Red Letters and White Outline with the traditional lettering of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows. The flat car was used in every parade through 2003.
As of September 2007, this car was resting inside the Train sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
This flatcar is a 72 ft. Thrall design flat. It was purchased from the Royal American Shows on January 28, 1987 by the Circus World Museum for $ 2000.00. While on the Royal American Shows it was numbered # 35.
The origin of the car is from the Thrall Car Manufacturing Company. It was built in 1949 for the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. It was intended for use by two of the steel seat wagons designed by Art Concello but it was discovered the seat wagons were too heavy for these flats.
After Ringling closed under canvas in 1956, they were put up for sale in 1959. Royal American Shows bought a couple. In 1961, Ringling sold all remaining flatcars to Royal American Shows, so it us unknown for sure whether this was purchased from Ringling in 1959 or 1961.
Royal American Shows used this flat on their train until they stopped train travel. It was offered for sale and six of them were purchased by the Circus World Museum for $ 2000.00 each.
They were not used for the first 5 years. In 1992, the first Thrall flat car was used in the Parade train. It was painted silver with the Bright Red Letters and White Outline with the traditional lettering of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows. The flat car was used in every parade through 2003.
As of September 2007, this car was resting inside the Train sheds located just west of the Circus World Museum.
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